By: Matt Emma

The Chaos and the Control

In all my years of interviewing entrepreneurs, I’ve never sat down with two individuals quite like Kai Stone and Michael Vanhoutte.

To be honest, I’m still surprised they haven’t faced significant setbacks with their company.

Kai, especially, caught me off guard — he’s loud, unfiltered, and doesn’t fit the stereotypical “business guy.” Yet somehow, alongside Michael, he has helped build a thriving multi-million-dollar software company with over 22 employees — all in under six months of partnership.

After sitting with them for only a few minutes, it became apparent why the company works: chaos and control, carefully balanced.

Kai is the charisma and raw instinct — the spark that ignites things — while Michael brings the structure, systems, and precision that help everything run smoothly. The balance is likely the engine behind their success.

And as I interviewed them, I realized the real story wasn’t just about how they built a company — it was about how they think. I wanted to understand the mindset that drives two people so different to build something remarkably successful in such a short period.

“I’ll Give You the Roadmap I Wish I Had Two Years Ago”

When you ask Kai a question, you never get fluff. No motivational quotes. No corporate buzzwords. Just the blunt, unfiltered truth — the kind that hits a little too hard because it’s actually authentic, he truly does not have a filter.

I started by asking what advice he’d give someone who wants to start a business but is afraid of failing.

“First, understand that you cannot listen to anyone’s opinion that doesn’t have the life you want. It is pointless.

This includes your Instagram followers, your ex, your spiritual leader, your cat — all of it. All of them.

When you’re trying to build something big, you have to be your own cheerleader for a long time.”

Also understand… NOBODY is coming to save you. Nobody cares about your success as much as you have to care in order to move the needle in the direction you want. 

He paused for a moment — the energy in the room shifting from confident to deliberate.

“You’re going to lose friends. You’re going to work harder than you ever have before and have no idea if it’ll even pay off. You’re going to feel unbelievably alone because you’re trying to create a reality for yourself that doesn’t exist yet.

You will feel lonely. You will feel uncertain and more days than not you will just want to quit. But if you happen to not quit, you either win or your learn.  And by the way… the only thing that matters is the person you become in the process.. But the funny part is you only realize that after you’ve won. 

“Thank God Success Isn’t About Raw Intelligence”

When I asked Kai what the key to success was, he grinned like he already knew I’d asked that question a hundred times before.

“Thank God success isn’t about raw intelligence — because if it was, I’d be done for,” he said.

“I’d honestly say my key to success is being able to look like a complete noob for an extended amount of time until I figure it out.

And it’s funny because people only see the success, but they never see all the challenges that happened behind closed doors.”

It’s hard not to laugh because it’s true.

“Watching Kai Operate…”

When I turned to Michael and asked what it’s like working with someone like Kai, he grinned.

“Watching Kai operate is what I imagine watching someone drive a car blind folded would feel like,” Michael said, laughing.

“It’s chaotic, a little dangerous, and somehow he still gets where he’s going faster than everyone else.

But that’s what makes it work.

We’re total opposites — I bring structure, he brings raw instinct. It’s why this partnership has been effective.”

Kai thrives on freedom and risk. Michael lives for refinement and mastery. Together, that tension has propelled their business forward.

“Watching Michael Operate…”

Afterward, I asked Kai what it’s like watching Michael in the trenches. He didn’t hesitate.

“I’ve literally never seen someone handle problems so unemotionally and so logically,” Kai said. “I’m not trying to hype Mike up too much, but the dude is extremely capable. And he’s really good at calming me down when I start losing my composure — which happens often.”

Michael’s Mindset

Later, when I asked Michael what really drives him, his answer came without hesitation.

“Constant improvement,” he said. “That’s what makes me tick. I’ve been obsessed with it since I was sixteen.

Even before business, I just loved the idea of getting better at things.

Life’s a bunch of buckets — money, fitness, relationships, skill, impact — and I’m just trying to fill each one. Once I get really good at something, I move to the next.

That’s what fulfillment looks like to me.”

It’s a statement that captures exactly why their dynamic works. Kai chases freedom; Michael chases progress. Together, they’ve built something that embodies both.

“What’s It Like Being This Successful So Young?”

When I asked Michael what it’s like being so young and already this successful, he hesitated before answering.

“It’s strange,” he said finally. “I’m twenty-four, and most people my age are living completely different lives. They’re traveling, partying, doing what normal people do. I feel like I’m forty sometimes.

Older people can be intimidated, and people my age can’t really relate.

But I’m grateful. I’ve gone through the hardships, the difficult jobs — all of it. I know what it feels like to earn this.

And I wouldn’t trade that for anything.”

The answer is so honest, it’s disarming. There’s no bravado in his voice, just grounded awareness — the kind that only comes from doing the work.

Built on Choice

Despite their differences, what stands out most about Kai and Michael is mutual respect.

Both have built companies before. Both know how hard it is. And both recognize that their partnership works because they don’t need each other — they choose each other.

“The reason it works is because we both had our own companies before this,” Kai said earlier.

“There’s mutual respect because I know he could do this without me, and I know I could do it without him.

But we also know we’ll go way farther together.”

It’s not built on desperation — it’s built on choice.

“It’s like being married, right? You’re choosing each other not because you have to, but because you want to.

But, uh — no homo, though.”

As I packed up my notebook, one thing became clear: what makes this duo special isn’t luck or timing — it’s their unique mindset.

They don’t chase approval; they chase progress.

They don’t fear judgment; they fear mediocrity.

And together, that mindset is building something that has great potential.